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@Sara Winge: Situational identity!

I wonder what happens in a realtime context...


Posted as requested by Marc.


Slides from 2008 - SGFOO Social Networks Workshop - Marc Smith - Ties that Blind.pdf talk that I'm in right now are available here:
http://www.instructables.com/file/FSR...


@debs: from your blog: "a bit of analytic magic to tell me which of my friends I connect to the most and share the most with" -- couldn't agree more! we have lots to talk about then... :)


Response to Dopplr

In fact, that would probably form the basis of a very useful library where each social network could be responsible for contributing their bits to it.

Call it SNAC == Social Networks Always Connected.

=)


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Response to Ironic

It would be possible to programatically pull this information in. However, I would be concerned about people permitting this sort of wholesale import.

Imagine, everyone having a set of keys (mapped to id) on a keyring. If you have read capability on one key and describe the other keys you have to say Crowdvine, then it's possible to pull in all the other intersecting networks. It will not necessarily be complete but be at least a good start.

Grr, would be easier to draw a picture. Too bad I can't make it to the camp.


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Flickr Group

I've created a Flickr group for this FOO camp, at http://flickr.com/groups/sgfoo2008/
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@Warren Sack: I remember you...didn't Elaine Coleman introduce us?


I'm writing a book for O'Reilly on web community and social networks, I'll be interviewing over the weekend.


Recently, I was talking to someone from the Michigan Association of High School Principals who was raving about how much the entire organization relied on RSS. Anecdotal, but interesting to me.

A lot of the data portability standards have the potential to be hidden to the user with the right UI/UX. So maybe they'll get faster/wider adoption.


@Tony Stubblebine: The psychology behind these new technologies is interesting. RSS was the last new consumer facing web technology. The take up of RSS has not yet gone mainstream, certainly from experience in the science community.


@Tony Stubblebine: Hey Tony,

Yep, would be great to get some people together to discuss understanding real human relationships through the social graph.


@Ankur Shah: +1 on human relationships. I'd like to get some people together to talk about the human side of the social graph.


@Rob Dolin: Hi Rob, all the profile pages have hCard+XFN and also FOAF. Or you could check out this completely unsupported and barely thought out XML representation:
http://sgfoocamp08.crowdvine.com/profiles.xml


@Tony Stubblebine: Hey Tony, is there any way you could make an XML representation of the user profile available? I'd like to be able to mash together a participant list in an alternate format (like one long page for printing.) Thanks--
--Rob


Response to CrowdVine needs friends-list portability!

Crowdvine could become the open analogous to Facebook groups.


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@Scott Kveton: Hi Scott,
I'm looking forward to see you there! :)
Cheers,
Thomas


@John Panzer: John - I'm excited to see you at Foo Camp.


@Venky Veeraraghavan: Venky - really looking forward to catching up! It's been too long.

Eve


@Eran Hammer-Lahav: +1 on XRDS-Simple, XRDS, and service discovery in general


@Brian Ellin: Niche networks are almost comparative to Facebook groups


haha

http://www.crowdvine.com/conferences/
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The Point of CrowdVine

The reason I asked David if I could throw up a CrowdVine network is because I want to make it easier for people to meet and collaborate at the camp. I wanted to say that explicitly in case anyone thought I was pushing my vision of social networkin...
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@Tony Stubblebine: I am looking forward to the event!

Working with big data sets often leads to working with lots of little data sets. That is why we have been working on network analysis tools for Excel. Over at:
http://research.microsoft.com/research/downloads/Details/bd44899b-634e-4f1e-a69c-36546fa14529/Details.aspx
you can find early versions of C#UNG, a directed graph visualization tool ("C# Universal Network Graph") that plugs into Excel and provides some basic network analysis affordances.


Yes, we keep a record of the facebook user ID for everyone who adds the Facebook app. When we install the Facebook app in your profile, we use the API to ask for your Facebook friends, which are returned only as a list of IDs. We compare this internally to our record of others' IDs and present those to the user.

Most of our identity matching code is open sourced at http://identity-matcher.googlecode.com although I think the Facebook bit isn't in there as it's more intimately tied in to the rest of the Facebook code.


@Matt Biddulph: When Dopplr finds your friends on Facebook, how is it matching FB accounts with Dopplr accounts? Is it limited to people who also installed the Dopplr app? I suppose CrowdVine networks are small enough that we could match on name. Also, do you know of any open source reference implementations? If not, we'll release ours (too late for SG Foo though).


@Marc Smith: Marc, so glad you're coming. I saw you speak at Berkeley a year or so ago. Loved it. Would love to talk to you about social network analysis. You're probably doing stuff with massive data sets but if you want to play with highly connected niche networks I can probably share O'Reilly conference data (three Foo camps and Web 2.0 Berlin).


@Ralph Meijer: Ralph, can't wait to pick your brain re: xmpp pubsub!


Response to CrowdVine is *really* annoying me

The more we get involved in the open social (lowercase) movement the more we're impressed with how extensive the requirements are. I think the biggest beneficiaries (other than users) are going to be small independents like us. No hCard import yet, but when we do we'll make sure to open source it.

As for blog post: I'm positive you would have clicked on a page with the post (Home, My Network, JP's profile, several of the tag pages). The blog posts tend to be at the bottom, often well below the fold. The logic is that the other attendees are the most important content, so people and ways to find people (tags) get higher priority on the page.


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@Fred Stutzman: +1 for "what humans want from social networks"


@Brian Ellin: I'd second a talk on vertical/niche social networks and definitely attend something on social competition for self-improvement. Shelly here could probably talk about Reality All Stars as part of that.